the question is this.. unless buses burnt in bhandup did we bother to know about a dalit woman being raped and murdered in nagpur? or were we too busy reading about abhishek bachchan and aishwarya rai going to benaras because they were both manglik.
but that still does not justify a riot. the khairlanji incident made front page news, and if the Dalit parties had not been politicking so much, they might have managed to make it a big issue. basically im tired of every single community blaming the other for their own problems
I feel bad for you Siddharth that u speak just like the elitist newspapers want you to. that you should think that violence occurs because parties think it's fun.
This speaks of your ignorance/indifference towards the crisis of the increasing polarity in our world today, no wonder you support anti-reservations, too.
I think its terrible for our society that the class polarisation along with the sheer lack of re-dressal mechanisms for the grossly disadvantaged classes has reached a point where they have to resort to extreme expression to even get heard... This couldn't have just been party politicking.
unfortunately, i think we have come to a stage in civil society where being apologetic and sympathetic (in ruder words, politically correct) to everything and everyone is considered the path towards a more peaceful scoiety. although i deeply sympathise with the truly despondent situation most dalits in this country find themselves in, i find the 'way forward' taken by them to be utterly degrading. in my book, the minute one resorts to violence, they lose all moral grounds for their struggle; whether it be dalit or obc or upper caste or whatever else. i don't know how we can be critical of terrorism in kashmir yet be understanding about such 'emotional outbursts'. again, im not being anti-anything or anyone but simply feel two yardsticks can't be applied to two similar problems.
and about the issue of reservation, it is NOT the solution for ending polarity. however much intellectuals may sugar coat it, i know for a fact that amongst the vast lay-majority of the country, reservations have actually increased feelings of polarisation.
and it would be nice if next time ms/mr anonymous criticizes opinions without the smug and self-assured condescension of the left-liberal.
and sorry rohan for using your comments page as a platform to defend my views.
anonymous posts of the self-righteous kind put me off no end, in fact self-righteousness puts me off no end. so when someone yeels from hiding i find it completely unfair. of course, we are in a public domain, but this discussion does not amount to more than a drawing room conversation and for someone to shout from the bedroom or toilet, hammering people down, however right or wrong either side may be, is just not done.
rohan, the size of the matter in this post clearly shows how u very well wanted to start this debate... thanx... v. interesting... though i do not agree with the fact that reservation increases polarisation... theoritically, it would have,... but the fact is that the polarisation is already SO much, that reservation might have helped bridge the gap (it is a separate issue that reservation was used as a political tool).. i mean that it would have helped the dalits to decrease the polarisation
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but that still does not justify a riot. the khairlanji incident made front page news, and if the Dalit parties had not been politicking so much, they might have managed to make it a big issue.
basically im tired of every single community blaming the other for their own problems
I feel bad for you Siddharth that u speak just like the elitist newspapers want you to.
that you should think that violence occurs because parties think it's fun.
This speaks of your ignorance/indifference towards the crisis of the increasing polarity in our world today, no wonder you support anti-reservations, too.
I think its terrible for our society that the class polarisation along with the sheer lack of re-dressal mechanisms for the grossly disadvantaged classes has reached a point where they have to resort to extreme expression to even get heard...
This couldn't have just been party politicking.
unfortunately, i think we have come to a stage in civil society where being apologetic and sympathetic (in ruder words, politically correct) to everything and everyone is considered the path towards a more peaceful scoiety. although i deeply sympathise with the truly despondent situation most dalits in this country find themselves in, i find the 'way forward' taken by them to be utterly degrading. in my book, the minute one resorts to violence, they lose all moral grounds for their struggle; whether it be dalit or obc or upper caste or whatever else. i don't know how we can be critical of terrorism in kashmir yet be understanding about such 'emotional outbursts'. again, im not being anti-anything or anyone but simply feel two yardsticks can't be applied to two similar problems.
and about the issue of reservation, it is NOT the solution for ending polarity. however much intellectuals may sugar coat it, i know for a fact that amongst the vast lay-majority of the country, reservations have actually increased feelings of polarisation.
and it would be nice if next time ms/mr anonymous criticizes opinions without the smug and self-assured condescension of the left-liberal.
and sorry rohan for using your comments page as a platform to defend my views.
anonymous posts of the self-righteous kind put me off no end, in fact self-righteousness puts me off no end. so when someone yeels from hiding i find it completely unfair. of course, we are in a public domain, but this discussion does not amount to more than a drawing room conversation and for someone to shout from the bedroom or toilet, hammering people down, however right or wrong either side may be, is just not done.
rohan, the size of the matter in this post clearly shows how u very well wanted to start this debate... thanx... v. interesting...
though i do not agree with the fact that reservation increases polarisation... theoritically, it would have,... but the fact is that the polarisation is already SO much, that reservation might have helped bridge the gap
(it is a separate issue that reservation was used as a political tool).. i mean that it would have helped the dalits to decrease the polarisation
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